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I am a descendant of the Parker family. I am a descendant of Elijah Parker and Rosannah Newman. Their daughter Isabelle Parker married Albert Mills. My grandmother Blanche Mills was their daughter.
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Thanks Patricia:
Please understand, there is no mesunderstanding. You research the Parkers, primarily group #7. You never indicated that there was a connection between the two Blan(che)s. Neither have you implied any connection in any manner to Elder John. You do provide me with information to verify with my relatives. You also in your last post only verify additional information from my ancestors. That would be referring the Newman family to Germany. We have always know we were part "Black Dutch" or German. I didn't realize it was through my grandmothers side also. But I've always have confused information between the Mills and Hall portion of our family. Thanks for your persistent.
I can never be disappointed with information that I gain. However I do need to sort some information since it does not agree with some facts. Dates, names, places, tend to confuse people. So I must look at the place that I obtain information from also. I consider your information to be highly accurate.
Bobby
Hello, Bobby J. Hays - Thank you for your kind words.
It appears that you have misunderstood several parts of my last post to you.
First of all, I did not make a connection between the ancestors of your interest (your mother, grandmother, Blanch Mills, and others) and any of the Martin Van Buren Parker family line that moved from Illinois to Olathe, Kansas before 1870. Anythng I explained about Nathaniel Parker, his son MVB Parker's four daughters, and living in Olathe was in response to your request for information about the two sons of Elder John Parker who did NOT go to Texas. I believe I gave you all of that information earlier. I was merely repeating it for your general information, not because I thought it had anything to do with Rosanna Newman Parker and others..
In addition, nothing I found about Blanche Josephine Parker LeSage had any bearing at all on your Blanche Mills -- beyond the broad coincidences of the same given name and having lived in Kansas at different times. The Mills surname never came up in my research on Blanche LeSage. Please do not assume that I am trying to tie them together by sharing the LeSage report.
And finally, Blanche Josephine Parker LeSage's family was census-enumerated repeatedly as White back more than one hundred years. If Blance LeSage kept anything quiet about her past during the period WWI through WWII, it was that her mother and grandparents were born in Germany. That was enough to get tarred and feathered, even hanged, in some parts of the US.
I know you have spent many years looking into your ancestors' lives, but -- in these cases at least -- I fear that you are taking broad coincidences as fact, and that will become a big disappointment to you later on.
Best of luck in your research.
Patricia Ross Parker, researcher
Just for others information. I have found that Francis Parker is documented as being a woman also. I am not certain that the top of my lineage is a man or a woman. However I've also found John, Francis, and another Parker in documents as all being men.
Bobby
Thank you Patricia:
Your such a value to this site. I believe that I've downloaded some information on Martin Van Buren Parker. I didn't review it yet since I had not made the connection you have. Your information of Blance Parker, it is exciting to verify that she lived in Kansas. I didn't realize she was a few years younger than my grandmother.
One of the reason of interest is that from my memory of a few conversations with my grandmother, Blanche Mills, is that she did have the negro race in her ancestors. I thought it was her grandmother or great grandmother on the Newman side of the family. I thought Blanche Parker was her grandmother, but have not been able to verify that fact. It seems she may be a cousin of some sort. I believe we had some family members trying to hide the fact we are related to descendents of slaves or the negro race.
Bertha Simonds (maiden name) lives in Kansas City, Kansas. She and her husband worked on the farm with our Mills relatives near Hoxie (and I believe Olathe). She is my mom's cousin. Both of them have information I unable to retain. Your notes help tremendously.
Bobby
Blanch Josephine Parker was born in Conneautville, Pennsylvania in December 1909, the youngest child of John M. Parker and Dora Kecker. Josephine appeared on 1910 and 1920 Pennsylvania censuses.
In 1923, apparently at age 14, she married Ralph James Smock and had three children, including Eva, Ralph Jr., and Josephine. They divorced.
In 1929 Blanche married Leon L. LaSage, and they moved to Kansas. I believe they were in Concordia, Cloud Co. with a number of LaSage relatives, but I cannot prove it. They had two children, Gertrude and Leon Jr. and the LaSage family returned to Pennsylvania. Blanche's three Smock children thereafter used the LaSage surname. Blanche Parker LaSage died in Conneautville in 1951.
It appears that several of the people you have named in various posts are distantly related by marriage, etc. to both direct and indirect allied descendants of the John M. Parker family that lived in Middle Tennessee, migrated to Thompsonville, Franklin Co., Illinois ca. 1862, and never came back. There they intermarried with Isaacs, Suttons, Richters, and mainly with McKowns. Many lived in Marshall Co. Kansas and many were found in Find A. Grave. The family of and descendants of Rosanna Newman Parker are distantly related to those Parkers by marriage. The relationships are complicated.
You mention descendants of Elder John who did not migrate to Texas with him. I do not find a question in your post, but to reiterate, one son had already left Elder John's clan and died in an Indian attack on the frontier (not Fort Parker in Texas.) Son Nathaniel Parker married Elizabeth Lockhart and remained in Illinois. They lived out their lives there. Nathaniel's son Martin Van Buren Parker stayed and married Emma Woodward there. MVB's sister Susan married a St. Clair. The MVB family and the St. Clairs left Illiinois and went to Olathe, Kansas where they all prospered in public service, land, agriculture, and various forms of municipal development. MVB had only daughters. Only one married and had children, so there was no Parker male line to carry on. The other daughters inherited and lived out their lives comfortably as spinsters in the family's prominent Queen Anne home. It is still solid and lived in today. The lives of all of these people are thoroughly documented online.
I have not made it fit yet,, but my vibes :) tell me that the Paul and Orville you mention will show up finally as descendants of those Thompsonville, Illinois Parkers, some of whom ended up in Arkansas.
Keep Parker Heritage posted on what you learn.
Patricia Ross Parker
Patricia:
Here are a list of names of near relatives of my grandmother. Paul Parker 1875, her uncle. His son Orville Parker 1901to 1963. Johnnathan Parker 1874, her uncle. His sons Thomas, Johnathan, William, Fenton, and Fritz. These all descend from Elijah with his first wife Rosannah Newman. I haven't been in touch with any of these relatives that I know of recently. I ask mom to see if she knows where any of these relatives are. There are also a list of children with Elijah's 2nd wife also. Nancy Jane Langloss Vaughn Parker, she also had a previous marriage with children.
Patricia:
Just for the benefit of those reading. My search is based on the fact that all my life I've heard that we were related to Cynthia Ann. From the little research that I've done. Silas in our family was born approximately 3 years after Silas died at the fort. But Francis is born in the same time frame the Elder John was born. Francis also has a brother named John. From my information Francis was married to a woman named Lucy. The same name as the wife of John.
From your comments, there were two brothers left behind when the group moved to Texas. Sorry but I haven't been studying alot on the subject.
Bobby
Hello, Bobby J. Hays - We have exchanged before, but always on other branches of your tree than these in my database.
Did I read in your post that you think you were related to the Elder John Parker FG#5 group? Was that because your relatives had been in Illinois?
If so, I believe instead that you are related to a YDNA Family Group #7, some of whom were also in Illinois. None of the following was related to the Elder John Parker family. Included were:
John M. Parker b. 1823 TN was a son of James Parker b. 1787 Va., who was a son of Mills Parker b. 1762 NC. Mills Parker's wife was Mary Tugwell.
John M. Parker married Susannah Wakefield who died Macon Co. TN ca. 1860.
John M. Parker then moved his family from Tennessee to Thompsonville, Franklin Co. Illinois in 1861. They prospered in Illinois, never returned to Tennessee. Some descendants live today in Arkansas. Related surnames were Wakefield, Isaacs, Ice, McKown, Gargas, Bain, Meadows, Coker, Miller and Gammon.
Also of that related FG#7 Tennessee line were
Dempsey Parker bca. 1780 Va. who was either a brother or first cousin of James Parker above. Both Parker men came to Smith/Macon Co. Tennessee after War of 1812, settled nearby and attended the same church. In 1815 Dempsey married Frances Hargis who was part Cherokee. They had ten children. Dempsey's son Harvey Burton Parker left TN for Illinois with the John M. Parker family above. He married Louisa Thompson in Illinois.
Dempsey's son Ira Simon Parker was in Missouri in 1860 and then Brownsville, Nebraska in 1870. Surnames related to Dempsey Parker's large family included Coker, Simpson, Thompson, Whitson, Richmond, Burrows, Maples, and Gammon.
I am confident of the FG#7 family group and bloodline of the James Parker and Dempsey Parker families. In earlier generations, it is probable that the line of Frances Parker (m. Lucy unk) to son Abraham to his sons Goldsberry and Hickman was also FG#7 in Tennessee, but it is unclear.
However, if you can agree that these people are related to the same ones you mention in your posts, perhaps it will help any parallel research you are conducting on other branches.
Out of all of these Parkers, could you find a living lineal Parker male to YDNA test for the whole family? Results would not speak to your Mills or Hays etc. lines, but they would answer a lot of Parker questions for you.
Good luck in your research.
Patricia Ross Parker, Parker Heritage researcher for FG#7
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Hello, Bobby J. Hays - No, sorry, I cannot think of any friends with those names, definitely no relatives.
But I am interested in your posting history. Is your interest in the Elder John Parker FG#5 family based upon data? or other information?
On the other hand, Abraham Parker and Isabel Ferguson were in Macon Co. TN, were mentioned as parents of the Isabella Parker who marrked Alberr Fenton Mills in some message. That made it easy to find Abraham and Isabel among many of our confirmed FG#7 Parkers in Macon. And the Fergusons were numerous there, along with the Nichols and the Nashes. The Parker line you are researching, found living among and being enumerated next to our Parkers, does not make them related, but it certainly could make you curious.
If you are interested in any of that, let me know and we can exchange.
Patricia Ross Parker, researcher for Parker Heritage and for P11, Parker Project Family Group #7