Posted by Lisa Martinez on December 4, 2008 at 12:43pm
My grandfather was from Wetumka, OK. He and siblings and parents moved to California during the draught in the 30's, where he met and married my grandmother Marie E. Vertrees. He said we were related to Quanah Parker and even spoke of family dinners with him. Can anyone help me?
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You say you have relatives that came to California during the draught? I'm told my grandmother lived in the desert above Los Angeles in 1968. I don't have her name. Do you have any William Parkers from your line that were in California at that time? (I'm still looking for my father).
All I can give you is my grandfather lived in Oklahoma during the beginning of the dust bowl days, around Mt. Veiw & Saddle Mt. area. His name was William Luster Parker. I believe he was born around Bath or Rowan County, Kentucky, some where around the year of 1876. I know he was named after a William & a Luster realtive, but at this point & time not sure which ones. He moved back to Kentucky during the main part of the dust bowl in OK, and later moved back to OK where he lived until he died in Dec. 1949. That's where he is buried with my grandmother Emma Clay Steele/Parker. Do either of these names ring a bell?
Jim Yarbrough > Robin Marie Parker/Bray SmithJanuary 16, 2009 at 8:36pm
William Luster Parker
Birth: 1876 - Kentucky
Parents: Benjamin Franklin Parker, Rose Anna "Annie" Caudill
Benjamin Franklin Parker
Born: 20 Oct 1851
[city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Died: 29 Jun 1925
[city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Spouse
Rose Anna Caudill
Born: 1856 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Died: 1947
Marriage: 19 Sep 1872 View Info
Children Sex Birth
Louisa F Parker F 1874 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
William Luster Parker M 1876 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Nancy Elizabeth Parker F 1878 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Joel Parker
Born: 12 Jun 1793
[city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
Died: 1876
[city], Rowan, Kentucky, USA
Spouse 1
Rhoda Maxey
Born: 1794 in Buckingham, [county], Virginia, USA
Died: 1838 in [city], Morgan, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 31 Mar 1814 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
Lydia Parker F abt 1817 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Mary Ann Parker F abt 1822 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Lucretia Parker F abt 1824 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Miriam Parker F 11 Aug 1826 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
John Thomas Parker M 1829 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Nancy Parker F abt 1831 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Rhoda Parker F abt 1833 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Spouse 2
Julia Ann Templeman
Born: 1805 in [city], Stafford, Virginia, USA
Died: 1860 in [city], Rowan, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 22 Apr 1839 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
James Edward Parker M 1 Jul 1841 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Jemima A Parker F 1843 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Lewis Mason Parker M 2 Jun 1845 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
William L Parker M 5 Apr 1848 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Benjamin Franklin Parker M 20 Oct 1851 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Edward Parker
Born: 1754
[city], Pitt, North Carolina, USA
Died: 1 Jun 1838
[city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Spouse 1
Elizabeth Oakley
Born: 1772 in [city], [county], Virginia, USA
Died: 17 Jun 1802 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 6 Jan 1789 in [city], Madison, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
Anna Parker F
Polly Parker F
Anna Parker F 22 Nov 1789 in [city], Madison, Kentucky, USA
Joel Parker M 12 Jun 1793 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
Elizabeth Parker F 6 May 1796 in [city], Clark, Kentucky, USA
Daniel Parker M 28 May 1799 in Clark, [county], Kentucky, USA
Mary Ann Parker F 2 Feb 1805 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
John Parker M 24 Aug 1811 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Spouse 2
Elizabeth Burk
Born:
Died: 30 Aug 1849 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 14 Sep 1802 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
Edward Parker F
Mary Ann Parker F 2 Feb 1805 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
Edward Parker M 31 Jan 1807 in Montgomery, [county], Kentucky, USA
Mariam Parker F 6 Mar 1809 in Montgomery, [county], Kentucky, USA
John Parker M 24 Aug 1811 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Name: Benjamin F. Parker
Home in 1880: Christie Creek, Rowan, Kentucky
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Rosana
Father's birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's birthplace: Virginia
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin F. Parker 28
Rosana Parker 25
Louisa F. Parker 6
William E. Parker 4
Nancy Parker 2
1880; Census Place: Christie Creek, Rowan, Kentucky; Roll: T9_441; Family History Film: 1254441; Page: 465.2000; Enumeration District: 114; Image: 0131.
Name: Benjamin Parker
[Benjamin E Parker]
Home in 1900: Owingsville, Bath, Kentucky
Age: 48
Birth Date: Oct 1851
Birthplace: Kentucky
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky
Spouse's Name: Rosana
Marriage Year: 1872
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Residence : Owingville Town, Bath, Kentucky
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Parker 48
Rosana Parker 44
Frank Parker 16
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Owingsville, Bath, Kentucky; Roll: T623_508 Page: 20A; Enumeration District: 6.
Name: William L Parker
Home in 1920: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma
Age: 43 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma C
Father's Name: Benjamin F
Father's Birth Place: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Rosana
Mother's Birth Place: Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 656
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William L Parker 43 KY
Emma C Parker 38 KY
Rosana Parker 12 KY
Roy C Parker 6 KY
Robin Parker 9 KY
Viola Parker 3 11/12 KY
Mason R Parker 1 8/12 KY
Benjamin F Parker 68 KY
Rosana Parker 64 KY
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1467; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 135; Image: 656.
Name: William L Parker
Home in 1930: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma C
Race: White
Occupation:
Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William L Parker 53
Emma C Parker 49
Clay Parker 16
Villa Parker 13
Mason Parker 11
Lorene Parker 8
Lora Parker 6
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma; Roll: 1910; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 258.0.
don"t know if this will help you but i know we started out there and at FT .Smith Ar . My name is Dwayne Paker my Dad is james are Jim his dad was Jack
I would like to introduce myself. Curtis Alan Parker. I am 47 yrs old and believe I am a gr gr grandson of Quanah. My grandfather's name was Frank and his dad's name was John, so I'm told. That's all I know. I stumbled across this site and would love to put some of the pieces together if anyone can help. Thanks, Al
Jim Yarbrough > curtis alan parkerJanuary 6, 2009 at 10:31am
Curtis, We would need more information in order to assist you. What were their full names dates/places of birth, marriage, and death? What were the full maiden names of the wives? Any thing elsew you have that came out of their bibles, obituaries, etc.
I have seen other researchers trees that have Nathaniel Parker, and Ann Clayton as Quanah's GR GR Grandparents. They are also supposed to be Elisha Parker's grandparents, if that is true then Elisha would be Silas Parker's cousin, Silas is Quanah's Grandfather. I don't know for sure who the father of Elisha Parker is, i have hit a wall trying to figure that out. I need to correct my first reply George Rice Parker died in 1883 not 1879.
Lisa Martinez > tommy kingJanuary 8, 2009 at 11:37pm
My mom is still convinced that we are somehow related to Quanah. She has seen many pictures of Quanah and in many pictures there is a very strong resemblance to my grandfather. I have to admit that I see it in some pictures too. Do you or anyone know how the Parker DNA test thing works? My mother is very interested in seeing if it is possible to get a DNA test to see if we are related. Is that possible? If it is, how much would something like that cost? She realizes that we still would not know how we are related if it were a positive match. We are all still very curious based on the things that my grandfather & his siblings used to say.
Jim Yarbrough > Lisa MartinezJanuary 9, 2009 at 6:10am
DNA Tests for males are discussed at the Parker DNA Test online at
In Family Group 5, you will see results from two proven descendants of Elder John Parker.
Someone who claims he descends from Quanah took the test - his test number is P43. But I seriously doubt he is. A male descendant would not match any Parker - it would match Peta Nocona and Pohibit-Quasha (called Iron Shirt). I have asked a Quanah descendant to take the test but as yet he has not or has not allowed the results to be made public.
The Parker Family DNA test is "group discounted". I would recommend a minimum of the 67- marker test but no less that the 37*marker test.
DNA tests for females are called mtDNA and would only go from daughter to mother, to mother's mother.
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Hi Lisa!
You say you have relatives that came to California during the draught? I'm told my grandmother lived in the desert above Los Angeles in 1968. I don't have her name. Do you have any William Parkers from your line that were in California at that time? (I'm still looking for my father).
Birth: 1876 - Kentucky
Parents: Benjamin Franklin Parker, Rose Anna "Annie" Caudill
Benjamin Franklin Parker
Born: 20 Oct 1851
[city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Died: 29 Jun 1925
[city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Spouse
Rose Anna Caudill
Born: 1856 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Died: 1947
Marriage: 19 Sep 1872 View Info
Children Sex Birth
Louisa F Parker F 1874 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
William Luster Parker M 1876 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Nancy Elizabeth Parker F 1878 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Joel Parker
Born: 12 Jun 1793
[city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
Died: 1876
[city], Rowan, Kentucky, USA
Spouse 1
Rhoda Maxey
Born: 1794 in Buckingham, [county], Virginia, USA
Died: 1838 in [city], Morgan, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 31 Mar 1814 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
Lydia Parker F abt 1817 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Mary Ann Parker F abt 1822 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Lucretia Parker F abt 1824 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Miriam Parker F 11 Aug 1826 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
John Thomas Parker M 1829 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Nancy Parker F abt 1831 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Rhoda Parker F abt 1833 in Bath, [county], Kentucky, USA
Spouse 2
Julia Ann Templeman
Born: 1805 in [city], Stafford, Virginia, USA
Died: 1860 in [city], Rowan, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 22 Apr 1839 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
James Edward Parker M 1 Jul 1841 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Jemima A Parker F 1843 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Lewis Mason Parker M 2 Jun 1845 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
William L Parker M 5 Apr 1848 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Benjamin Franklin Parker M 20 Oct 1851 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Edward Parker
Born: 1754
[city], Pitt, North Carolina, USA
Died: 1 Jun 1838
[city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Spouse 1
Elizabeth Oakley
Born: 1772 in [city], [county], Virginia, USA
Died: 17 Jun 1802 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 6 Jan 1789 in [city], Madison, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
Anna Parker F
Polly Parker F
Anna Parker F 22 Nov 1789 in [city], Madison, Kentucky, USA
Joel Parker M 12 Jun 1793 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
Elizabeth Parker F 6 May 1796 in [city], Clark, Kentucky, USA
Daniel Parker M 28 May 1799 in Clark, [county], Kentucky, USA
Mary Ann Parker F 2 Feb 1805 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
John Parker M 24 Aug 1811 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Spouse 2
Elizabeth Burk
Born:
Died: 30 Aug 1849 in [city], Bath, Kentucky, USA
Marriage: 14 Sep 1802 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA View Info
Children Sex Birth
Edward Parker F
Mary Ann Parker F 2 Feb 1805 in [city], Montgomery, Kentucky, USA
Edward Parker M 31 Jan 1807 in Montgomery, [county], Kentucky, USA
Mariam Parker F 6 Mar 1809 in Montgomery, [county], Kentucky, USA
John Parker M 24 Aug 1811 in [city], [county], Kentucky, USA
Name: Benjamin F. Parker
Home in 1880: Christie Creek, Rowan, Kentucky
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Rosana
Father's birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's birthplace: Virginia
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin F. Parker 28
Rosana Parker 25
Louisa F. Parker 6
William E. Parker 4
Nancy Parker 2
1880; Census Place: Christie Creek, Rowan, Kentucky; Roll: T9_441; Family History Film: 1254441; Page: 465.2000; Enumeration District: 114; Image: 0131.
Name: Benjamin Parker
[Benjamin E Parker]
Home in 1900: Owingsville, Bath, Kentucky
Age: 48
Birth Date: Oct 1851
Birthplace: Kentucky
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky
Spouse's Name: Rosana
Marriage Year: 1872
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Residence : Owingville Town, Bath, Kentucky
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Parker 48
Rosana Parker 44
Frank Parker 16
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Owingsville, Bath, Kentucky; Roll: T623_508 Page: 20A; Enumeration District: 6.
Name: William L Parker
Home in 1920: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma
Age: 43 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma C
Father's Name: Benjamin F
Father's Birth Place: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Rosana
Mother's Birth Place: Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 656
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William L Parker 43 KY
Emma C Parker 38 KY
Rosana Parker 12 KY
Roy C Parker 6 KY
Robin Parker 9 KY
Viola Parker 3 11/12 KY
Mason R Parker 1 8/12 KY
Benjamin F Parker 68 KY
Rosana Parker 64 KY
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1467; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 135; Image: 656.
Name: William L Parker
Home in 1930: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma C
Race: White
Occupation:
Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William L Parker 53
Emma C Parker 49
Clay Parker 16
Villa Parker 13
Mason Parker 11
Lorene Parker 8
Lora Parker 6
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Marshall, Kiowa, Oklahoma; Roll: 1910; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 258.0.
http://web.utk.edu/~corn/parkerdna/
In Family Group 5, you will see results from two proven descendants of Elder John Parker.
Someone who claims he descends from Quanah took the test - his test number is P43. But I seriously doubt he is. A male descendant would not match any Parker - it would match Peta Nocona and Pohibit-Quasha (called Iron Shirt). I have asked a Quanah descendant to take the test but as yet he has not or has not allowed the results to be made public.
The Parker Family DNA test is "group discounted". I would recommend a minimum of the 67- marker test but no less that the 37*marker test.
DNA tests for females are called mtDNA and would only go from daughter to mother, to mother's mother.
You can read more at: http://www.familytreedna.com/
I sincerely wish you luck in your quest.