Park/Parker Family Connections

Hello, if this is posted in the wrong location, please let me know. :-)

I joined this group because my dad's DNA sample on FamilyTree DNA has many more matches carrying the surname Parker rather than Park. In documenting our genealogy, I have not come across anyone in our line using the spelling Parker... but I have found Parke, Park, and Parks. Dad was an early participant in the Parke Society's DNA project, and his sample was positively identified as a descendant of immigrant ancestor Richard Park (1602 England - 1665 Newton, MA), who arrived aboard the 'Defence' in 1635. Dad's sample was a 67 marker match to a very well-documented descendant of Richard (that was the max they were including at the time the project started). Since then, very few people have matched dad's sample, even at the 25 marker level... and of those, the majority of them have carried the surname Parker rather than Park/e/s. As Richard's parentage and birth information has never been documented, and as he lived in a community that also included a Parker family, I am left to wonder if perhaps he shortened his surname to avoid confusion... or perhaps he had a reason to change his surname when immigrating. Family lore was that he was Scottish, but he sailed from London with Thomas Shepard's company. 

John Parker (1615 England - 1686 Newton, MA) was also a member of Thomas Shepard's company, and some of his descendants are later found in the same Kentucky communities as my ancestors in the late 1700's and early 1800's. It appears that the families did travel together. However, I do not see his name listed on the Parker DNA project chart over on FamilyTreeDNA... so I cannot determine if there is a relationship or not. Ours is listed there, in FG64 (a group of only two). I am assuming that the other Parker matches that appear on FamilyTreeDNA have not joined the Parker Project yet. 

At this point, I'm a little lost about how to proceed. While we do have Park matches to Richard Park (1602 England-1665 MA) and Rowland Park (1806 NY-1887 KS), the best Y-DNA matches are to men with Parker fathers. One match documents back to Samuel Parker (1820 Nottingham, England-1898 Ontario, Canada) another documents back to James Parker (b. 1860 Carlisle, England). One match claims to go back to Richard Parker (1630 Cornwall, England-1681 Parker Creek, VA)... but his sample does not match the other person who claims the same lineage on the Parker DNA project... so someone is off there. We also have 10 more matches that list the Parker surname, but that have not included information regarding their ancestors. 

My own documented line is as follows:

Father, Donald E. Park - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125081503/donald-edward-park

Grandfather, Albert Lawrence Park - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9603881/albert-lawrence-park

Great Grandfather, Francis Edward Park - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/71972153/francis-edward-park

2nd Great Grandfather, Francis Marion Park - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126639059/francis-marion-park

3rd Great Grandfather, Henry Thomas Park - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60815407/henry-thomas-park

4th Great Grandfather, Elza D. Park - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132195445/elza-d.-park

5th Great Grandfather, believed to be John Park who married Nancy Darnall in Bourbon County, Kentucky, on 15 Oct 1798... but no documentation found to date. 

Any advice regarding how I could/should proceed in attempting to break down this brick wall would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Evey :-) 

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  • Thanks, Wayne. I'm glad to read that your health is improving! Wonderful news!
    Regarding future research, I have made another post here searching for any Y-DNA participants who trace their Parker line back to early immigrants found in Middlesex, Massachusetts. If any of them have submitted Y-DNA to the Parker DNA project, then I would know I'm "barking up the wrong tree" with these musings. Eliminating what isn't correct can go a long way toward identifying what IS correct, right?! ~Evey :-)
  • so sorry if you thought i was angry I was/not most of my post comes directly from my file, which i have posted many times here on Parker Heritage FAR from being angry I am so so happy today because after being not able to walk since Feb 2020 i am almost walking normal again. I was not aware that you would think I was angry as I have been help you on the Parker DNA Project and I think you deserve a lot of credit for the research you are doing and I look forward to seeing you future research. Wayne
  • Wayne, you sound angry in your response... I did not suggest that I was part of FG #7... I stated that I was part of FG #64. Michael is who brought up that topic. I can certainly see the DNA differences on the Parker project Y-DNA chart.

    My comment with regard to any Richard Parker was referencing the fact that people are posting trees claiming a lineage to certain ancestors that do not seem to be supported by documentation or DNA. My larger interest is in finding someone who has a documented lineage to John Parker who died in Newton, Massachusetts, in 1686... so that I could compare dad's Y-DNA with them... but so far I have not found anyone.

    Given those constraints, as well as the information I posted above, I am asking for advice on how to proceed. Perhaps someone here has noticed that there are Park families traveling across the country along with their Parker families. Or, perhaps someone here has the various spellings Parker, Parke, Parks, Park in their family tree. I'm just hoping to find some advice... not trying to infer that my line is going to any particular Parker. That's what I'm trying to identify!
  • I will make a very short statement about your comment that you wrote “One match claims to go back to Richard Parker (1630 Cornwall, England-1681 Parker Creek, VA)... but his sample does not match the other person who claims the same lineage on the Parker DNA project... so someone is off there. We also have 10 more matches that list the Parker surname, but that have not included information regarding their ancestors.”


    NOTE: There are three different Richard Parker living in the late 1600's in VA and so far as I know, no researcher has ever found any primary or secondary sources of information nor have been any y-DNA results that can connect the different Richard Parker as being kin to each other yet so many researchers are still combining and mixing the families of the three different Richard Parker into one family!!!!!
    The Richard Parker of FG #7 is from the Parker family from Nansemond Co., VA and he IS NOT REPEAT NOT the Dr. Richard Parker of Charles City Co., VA, Henrico Co., VA and who was a descendant of the Parker family of Browsholme, England!!!
    The Richard Parker of FG #7 is not the Richard Parker of Surry Co., VA either!!!

    Richard Parker of Nansemond Co., VA did not, repeat did not married Elizabeth Bailey. I don't know who his wife was. I have not been able to connection this Richard Parker or his father William Parker to any other Parker family in England at this time July 2013.

    I have a big file on the family of Dr. Richard Parker as I researched this family for 30 years now and corresponded with a member of the Browsholme Parker family of England in the mid 1990’s but the members of this family today will not answer my e-mails nor the e-mails of other Parker researchers. We have not been able to find a living Parker male from descendant of Dr. Richard Parker that has proven paper trail to do a y-DNA test. We have traced many of his his line to the early 1900 and 2021.

    You are part of Parker FG64 and at this time I have not research on this Family Group as you have done a great job.

    Wayne a member of FG#7
  • Evelyn, Welcome to Parker Heritage. Over the years other Park, Parks, Parke researchers have found us. Parker is an occupational surname. Many have altered the surname. I have always thought the Parr name is also a variation on Parker. The yDNA never lies. I will ask our Wayne N. Parker, the moderator, on the Parker yDNA project to check you family and be sure it is a separate family from Family 7 which includes Wayne and myself. Mike
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