My Aaron Parker is family #5, he is found in Mississippi by 1814 in Amite County MS, he came by way of TN and GA as children were born there. He was born ~1770 and married Tabitha Raborn (1772-1856). Aaron Parker had a brother in law named Burrell/Burwell Raborn/Rayburn. I believe this family was in Franklin County GA in 1802, but can't ID them anywhere else until they arrived in MS. Family legend refers to him as a TN long hunter.
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Who is this Aaron Parker? He was in Dickson County TN! Now if I could just place Burwell Raborn or Aaron wife Tabitha there, I could say he could be mine!!!!!
Deed Book C, page 436 "Deed from State of Tennessee to Aaron Parker, Assignee of John Parker. No. 2865. By virtue of part of Certificate No. 307, dated the 20th day of August 1807, obtained by John Parker, and entered on the 28th day of August 1807, by No. 180, we have granted to Aaron Parker, assignee of John Parker, a tract of land containing 39 acres, and lying on the waters of Parker’s fork of Turnbull Creek. Surveyed the 24th day of September 1808 by John Davis, including his improvement nearly in the center.
Aaron PARKER, Daniel Sr, Jr, Ruth, Sary Sr, Jr, Nancy, Moses, 1806 Dickson Co TN Baptist Church. other names John and Hannah PARKER. All names listed are PARKERS. Year of 1806?
Regarding the connection of Nathaniel Parker b. 1730, the long hunter, to Elder John Parker of Ft. Parker, it could be that the relationship is not actually there. (I seek to prove it is there because John's brother Daniel is in my line.) I found the first concrete connection of John and Nathaniel in a doctoral dissertation at Texas Tech. This author was researching Daniel Parker, the son of John, who was a preacher advocating the Two Seed Doctrine. In any event the dissertation reports that Daniel went to Bledsoe Creek, TN, the home of Nathaniel Parker and became the preacher there. The reason given was that he was related to Nathaniel.
Or if you can google "daniel parker" "two seed" and see the link there.
Jaye Drummond > David Walker DaltonApril 19, 2011 at 3:58pm
I can offer strong evidence that Elder John Parker was not the son of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire Co., VA/WV and later Sumner Co., TN.
The Ohio State Archives holds a typed transcript of a 33-page letter written by Thomas Scott (Call # VFM 2599), one of the first supreme court justices of Ohio, wherein he discusses his family history in great detail. He wrote the letter to his children on 31 Oct 1851 on the occasion of his 79th birthday.
In the letter he relates that he was born at Oldtown, (present) Allegany County, Maryland, on 31 Oct 1772, the son of John Scott and Sarah Chenoweth. Thomas writes of his grandparents Thomas Scott and Susannah Watson and all their descendants known to him.
On pages 8-9 of the letter, he writes:
"My father's sister Elizabeth, intermarried with Mr. Nathaniel Parker. He owned a beautiful well-kept cultivated farm and mills, two or three miles above the town of Frankfort on Patterson's creek, in Hampshire County, Virginia. He was a man of more than ordinary industry, economy and enterprise, and owned considerable wealth. My aunt had three daughters and seven sons by him, namely, Susannah, Elizabeth and Polly, John, Thomas, Richard, Aaron, Robert[,] Isaac and Nathaniel. Susannah intermarried with Charles Buler. More than sixty years since they removed and settled at Maristick a few miles from Louisville Kentucky. They had several children, but are both now deceased. Neither the names nor the places of their descendants are to me known. Elizabeth intermarried with Col. Michael Collyer [sic] and John with Miss Sally Collier, grand-son and grand-daughter of old Col. Thomas Cresap. These two families many years since removed and settled in Shelby County, Kentucky. After the decease of my aunt, Mr. Parker with the residue of his sons and daughters, their families removed to the state of Tennessee, where he intermarried with the widow of Col. Bledsoe deceased, but report says they did not live happily together."
Thomas Scott knew these families and lived near them in his youth, and public records support his statements in other matters regarding family ties mentioned above and throughout the letter. Unless Elder John married Sally Collier and moved to Shelby Co., KY, then he is not the son of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire Co., VA.
Scott also mentions that his father's half-sister Polly Dobson, daughter of William Dobson and his grandmother Susannah (Watson) (Scott) Dobson, married Aaron Parker "by whom she had three sons, William, Thomas, and Nathaniel." Scott also mentions he had not heard from any of the Parkers in "nearly sixty years" except "William Parker who called to see me many years since."
Joe Crouch > Jaye DrummondNovember 3, 2015 at 5:07pm
The 'Maristick' referred to in conjunction with Susannah Parker and Charles Buler (Beeler) in the above letter appears to have been a transcription error when the hand written letter was transcribed to a typewritten letter circa 1898. It's most likely Mann's Lick, an early Salt Works in what was at that time 'Jefferson County, Kentucky', now Bullitt County, Kentucky just to the south of Louisville, KY. See my web page for Susannah Parker: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~theduffypapers/parke...
Joe Crouch > Joe CrouchNovember 20, 2015 at 3:46pm
In addition to my comment above on Susannah Parker and Charles Beeler I've found a 1937 book 'The History of the Cresap's' which states:
On page 254:
“6. Elizabeth Cresap, b Jan. 19, 1737, probably in York County, PA – m Isaac Collier of PA. Isaac and Elizabeth were said to have moved to Kentucky, but no record of their residence there has been found. Both died before 1826.”
Another possible as Jaye calls it 'Chimerical' tradition is that the John Parker born 1755 who married Mary Rogers and lived in King & Queen County, VA was a son of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire County, VA. who migrated to Sumner County, TN. The above Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Thomas Scott 1851 letter says "Elizabeth intermarried with Col. Michael Collyer (Collier) and John (Parker) with Miss Sally Collier, grandson and granddaughter of old Col. Thomas Cresap. These two families many years since removed and settled in Shelby County, Kentucky."
See Rootsweb.com family files: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=Search&inclu...
John Parker and Sarah Collier's daughter Susan Bealer Parker was born 9 Sep 1802, which puts them in Shelby County, KY concurrent with the John Parker who married Mary Rogers in King & Queen County, VA. If Susan Bealer Parker was born in 1802, then that puts the John Parker in Shelby County, KY as being born about 1779-80 assuming he was 22 when his daughter was born. This also may clear up the break in children between 1755 when the John Parker in King & Queen was born and Susannah Parker who was born about 1762. If Nathaniel Parker and Elizabeth Scott were not the parents of the John Parker in King & Queen County, VA, then what other Parker's in Hampshire County, VA might have been?
Jaye Drummond > Jaye DrummondSeptember 26, 2015 at 8:41am
The entity which holds the document is still called the State Archives and Library,which is a part of the former Ohio Historical Society, renamed the Ohio History Connection in 2014, three years after my post. https://www.ohiohistory.org/learn/archives-library/state-archives
I'm not sure why the identification of Nathaniel Parker's wife as Ann Clayton holds any water at all now, as there is no evidence for it other than the chimerical "tradition" that consistently plagues genealogists.
You now have two documents written by persons in a position to know the facts, albeit written many years after the event in question, which state that Nathaniel Parker was married to an Elizabeth, one saying specifically that Elizabeth (Scott) Parker was the daughter of Thomas Scott and Susannah Watson. To my knowledge there is no contemporary document, or one written by persons who had known any of the parties in question, that mentions an Ann Clayton.
Hello Jaye,
The old saying that you can lead a horse to the water but you can't make them drink sure holds true for some genealogy "researchers". Some years ago after your first post, I was trying to point out to someone who had posted on Rootsweb that his direct line contained at least three different known y-DNA groups FG#5,FG#7, FG#18 and his own line which had not been tested. After several e-mail exchanges (one of mine contained info on his line from my file on research of Mississippi Parker families). I thought I was making progress till I received this e-mail "I am not going to change the wrong information in my file because it may help another researcher".
I am still trying to understand just how he thought by knowing leaving incorrect information in his file would help someone else do their research.
Wayne N. Parker researcher for P239 and co-admin for PH
Joe Crouch > Jaye DrummondSeptember 25, 2015 at 10:22am
I've found this posting interesting as I have an 1828 Family Bible of Francis Duffy who married Pamelia A. Parker in Sumner County, TN. in my possession. I've transcribed and put online here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~theduffypapers/du... as well as included links to digital images of the Duffy Family Bible. Pamelia A. Parker was a daughter of Thomas Parker and granddaughter of the Nathaniel Parker originally from Hampshire County, VA (subsequently Hampshire County, WV and then Mineral County, WV.) In the Duffy Family Bible it states:
Thomas Parker was born 29th February A.D. 1768; he was the son of Nathaniel Parker and his wife Elizabeth
If the Bible reference had said Ann (referring to Ann Clayton) I'd not have question it. But since it says 'Elizabeth' as the wife of Nathaniel Parker, then the above posting makes me question the link on most peoples family files to Ann Clayton. I've ordered a hard copy of the document and have created a web page that addresses issues I've seen in Family Files for said Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire County, VA.; deceased in Sumner County, TN. I would appreciate any feedback! Email: jecrouch9 (at) twc.com
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My Aaron Parker is family #5, he is found in Mississippi by 1814 in Amite County MS, he came by way of TN and GA as children were born there. He was born ~1770 and married Tabitha Raborn (1772-1856). Aaron Parker had a brother in law named Burrell/Burwell Raborn/Rayburn. I believe this family was in Franklin County GA in 1802, but can't ID them anywhere else until they arrived in MS. Family legend refers to him as a TN long hunter.
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Who is this Aaron Parker? He was in Dickson County TN! Now if I could just place Burwell Raborn or Aaron wife Tabitha there, I could say he could be mine!!!!!
Deed Book C, page 436 "Deed from State of Tennessee to Aaron Parker, Assignee of John Parker. No. 2865. By virtue of part of Certificate No. 307, dated the 20th day of August 1807, obtained by John Parker, and entered on the 28th day of August 1807, by No. 180, we have granted to Aaron Parker, assignee of John Parker, a tract of land containing 39 acres, and lying on the waters of Parker’s fork of Turnbull Creek. Surveyed the 24th day of September 1808 by John Davis, including his improvement nearly in the center.
Aaron PARKER, Daniel Sr, Jr, Ruth, Sary Sr, Jr, Nancy, Moses, 1806 Dickson Co TN Baptist Church. other names John and Hannah PARKER. All names listed are PARKERS. Year of 1806?
http://www.oldspencermill.com/history.html
I can not validate the claim taht Moses was Elder John Parker's nephew.
Perhaps it will give you some clues.
http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-01072009-31295009151308...
Or if you can google "daniel parker" "two seed" and see the link there.
I can offer strong evidence that Elder John Parker was not the son of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire Co., VA/WV and later Sumner Co., TN.
The Ohio State Archives holds a typed transcript of a 33-page letter written by Thomas Scott (Call # VFM 2599), one of the first supreme court justices of Ohio, wherein he discusses his family history in great detail. He wrote the letter to his children on 31 Oct 1851 on the occasion of his 79th birthday.
In the letter he relates that he was born at Oldtown, (present) Allegany County, Maryland, on 31 Oct 1772, the son of John Scott and Sarah Chenoweth. Thomas writes of his grandparents Thomas Scott and Susannah Watson and all their descendants known to him.
On pages 8-9 of the letter, he writes:
"My father's sister Elizabeth, intermarried with Mr. Nathaniel Parker. He owned a beautiful well-kept cultivated farm and mills, two or three miles above the town of Frankfort on Patterson's creek, in Hampshire County, Virginia. He was a man of more than ordinary industry, economy and enterprise, and owned considerable wealth. My aunt had three daughters and seven sons by him, namely, Susannah, Elizabeth and Polly, John, Thomas, Richard, Aaron, Robert[,] Isaac and Nathaniel. Susannah intermarried with Charles Buler. More than sixty years since they removed and settled at Maristick a few miles from Louisville Kentucky. They had several children, but are both now deceased. Neither the names nor the places of their descendants are to me known. Elizabeth intermarried with Col. Michael Collyer [sic] and John with Miss Sally Collier, grand-son and grand-daughter of old Col. Thomas Cresap. These two families many years since removed and settled in Shelby County, Kentucky. After the decease of my aunt, Mr. Parker with the residue of his sons and daughters, their families removed to the state of Tennessee, where he intermarried with the widow of Col. Bledsoe deceased, but report says they did not live happily together."
Thomas Scott knew these families and lived near them in his youth, and public records support his statements in other matters regarding family ties mentioned above and throughout the letter. Unless Elder John married Sally Collier and moved to Shelby Co., KY, then he is not the son of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire Co., VA.
Scott also mentions that his father's half-sister Polly Dobson, daughter of William Dobson and his grandmother Susannah (Watson) (Scott) Dobson, married Aaron Parker "by whom she had three sons, William, Thomas, and Nathaniel." Scott also mentions he had not heard from any of the Parkers in "nearly sixty years" except "William Parker who called to see me many years since."
On page 254:
“6. Elizabeth Cresap, b Jan. 19, 1737, probably in York County, PA – m Isaac Collier of PA. Isaac and Elizabeth were said to have moved to Kentucky, but no record of their residence there has been found. Both died before 1826.”
on page 258:
“21. Michael Collier, b ----- - m 1st________; m 2nd Elizabeth Parker dau of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire County, VA. and later Sumner County, Tennessee…..”
See: https://books.google.com/books?id=pytGAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwith...
Another possible as Jaye calls it 'Chimerical' tradition is that the John Parker born 1755 who married Mary Rogers and lived in King & Queen County, VA was a son of Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire County, VA. who migrated to Sumner County, TN. The above Ohio Supreme Court Chief Justice Thomas Scott 1851 letter says "Elizabeth intermarried with Col. Michael Collyer (Collier) and John (Parker) with Miss Sally Collier, grandson and granddaughter of old Col. Thomas Cresap. These two families many years since removed and settled in Shelby County, Kentucky."
See Rootsweb.com family files: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=Search&inclu...
John Parker and Sarah Collier's daughter Susan Bealer Parker was born 9 Sep 1802, which puts them in Shelby County, KY concurrent with the John Parker who married Mary Rogers in King & Queen County, VA. If Susan Bealer Parker was born in 1802, then that puts the John Parker in Shelby County, KY as being born about 1779-80 assuming he was 22 when his daughter was born. This also may clear up the break in children between 1755 when the John Parker in King & Queen was born and Susannah Parker who was born about 1762. If Nathaniel Parker and Elizabeth Scott were not the parents of the John Parker in King & Queen County, VA, then what other Parker's in Hampshire County, VA might have been?
I'm not sure why the identification of Nathaniel Parker's wife as Ann Clayton holds any water at all now, as there is no evidence for it other than the chimerical "tradition" that consistently plagues genealogists.
You now have two documents written by persons in a position to know the facts, albeit written many years after the event in question, which state that Nathaniel Parker was married to an Elizabeth, one saying specifically that Elizabeth (Scott) Parker was the daughter of Thomas Scott and Susannah Watson. To my knowledge there is no contemporary document, or one written by persons who had known any of the parties in question, that mentions an Ann Clayton.
The old saying that you can lead a horse to the water but you can't make them drink sure holds true for some genealogy "researchers". Some years ago after your first post, I was trying to point out to someone who had posted on Rootsweb that his direct line contained at least three different known y-DNA groups FG#5,FG#7, FG#18 and his own line which had not been tested. After several e-mail exchanges (one of mine contained info on his line from my file on research of Mississippi Parker families). I thought I was making progress till I received this e-mail "I am not going to change the wrong information in my file because it may help another researcher".
I am still trying to understand just how he thought by knowing leaving incorrect information in his file would help someone else do their research.
Wayne N. Parker researcher for P239 and co-admin for PH
I've found this posting interesting as I have an 1828 Family Bible of Francis Duffy who married Pamelia A. Parker in Sumner County, TN. in my possession. I've transcribed and put online here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~theduffypapers/du... as well as included links to digital images of the Duffy Family Bible. Pamelia A. Parker was a daughter of Thomas Parker and granddaughter of the Nathaniel Parker originally from Hampshire County, VA (subsequently Hampshire County, WV and then Mineral County, WV.) In the Duffy Family Bible it states:
Thomas Parker was born 29th February A.D. 1768; he was the son of Nathaniel Parker and his wife Elizabeth
If the Bible reference had said Ann (referring to Ann Clayton) I'd not have question it. But since it says 'Elizabeth' as the wife of Nathaniel Parker, then the above posting makes me question the link on most peoples family files to Ann Clayton. I've ordered a hard copy of the document and have created a web page that addresses issues I've seen in Family Files for said Nathaniel Parker of Hampshire County, VA.; deceased in Sumner County, TN. I would appreciate any feedback! Email: jecrouch9 (at) twc.com
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~theduffypapers/parke...
I really enjoyed reading the information that you have posted here and on your links. You are to be commended for a job well done!!!
Wayne N. Parker P239 researcher for FG#7 and co-admin for PH
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